HomeMy WebLinkAbout2005-04-08 Penjajawoc Marsh / Bangor Mall Management Commission Minutes �
Penjajawoc/Stillwater Stakeholders Task Force `
April 8,2005 Meeting
Meeting Summary r
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Attendance: All stakeholders attended except Mark Conley (Jim Parker took his place).
Review of April 1 Meeting Summary: Under the Update on Widewaters section, the �
first phrase of the last sentence will be eliminated. The sentence �ow reads"Hope noted
that....". Under the section on Davis & Rudnicki parcels, it should read that the line of ,
potenrial commercial zone "will come within 350 feet(not 250)..."
Update on Widewaters project: The meeting between Sam Coplon and IF&W, DEP, '
BACORD and the Penobscot Valle Chapter of Maine Audubon will took place and
minutes aze being prepared. Kevin has begun discussions with the City in hopes of
submitting the project for approval b mid-May, aiming for a June"7 Planning Board �
meeting. Tbe DEP submission will also happen in the near future. If there is a reasonable
regulatory process at the City and State levels, Kevin said the company hopes for a late
summer groundbreaking. He noted that given the company's history, he will only be able �
to "take it to the markeY' once permitting looks likely.
W/S Project: W/S's continuing conversations with landowners about mitigation t
possibilities are producing results. Several landowners with property adjacent to the
marsh have expressed a willingness to negotiate conservation easements or outright sale
of their land to W/S. �
Potential additional restrictions in overlay zone (lawns, golf courses): Lucy and Judy �
have been researching this topic and will have something for the Task Force to consider �
at its next meeting on April 22 [afrer the meeti�g, Lucy distributed a draft of some
proposed language which will be distributed prior to the next meeting once it is revised].
Status of TrafTic, PSR Issues: W/S's traffic consultant Tom Garrill attended the �
meeting and discussed his preliminary modeling data on the several traffic modifications �
developed by Jim Ring as potential alternatives to the PSR. Tom noted that the
interconnectivity between W/S and Widewaters' projects was essential, aud without that,
these alternatives "won't work." Task Force members reviewed a number of the ,
elements and explored various alternatives, including making the interconnector road
between projects a 4-land instead of 2-lane road, hoping to eliminate an entry onto �
Stillwater. Tom expressed reservations about that approach. The Penjajawoc stream �
crossing of the interconnector road, while necessary, will have a much smaller impact on
wildlife than the proposed PSR crossing. The bridge will have a"closed drainage"
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� system to minimize any impact of runoff on water quality. Tom concluded that the
package of ideas offered by Jim Ring, even with the very conservative model (worst case
� scenario) Tom used, "will work" as an alternative to the PSR.
Several members wondered whether it would be advisable to contact the US Army Corps
� of Engineers at this early planning stage to get their input and advice on this stream
crossing issue. Other who have experience with the Corps said this was probably
premature, that all they would tell you at this point was"to study the impact of various
� altematives" and come back to them with a specific proposal. Others noted that to
approach the Corps now might compromise the planning of the two projects since they
are still under development and not yet finalized.
� The essential question is what level of detail the Task Force must develop in order to
make a recommendation to the City Council on pursuit of alternatives to the PSR Jim
' Ring will develop some language for a proposed recommendation for review at the next
meeting.
� Review of Ed's Draft of Task Force recommendations: Under the Residential
Development section,the reFerence to "septic"systems in Paragraph 3 will be changed to
"subsurface waste water disposaP' systems. The reference to the minimum lot size will
� add, "or the minimum required by state law, whichever is larger."
In Paragraph 4,the reference to "wetland" will be changed to "marsh."
� In the section on Residential Development Adjacent to Marsh, the last sentence is
unnecessary and will be eliminated.
' A question was raised about whether the Task Force should recommend that Bangor
enact an ordinance prohibiting the use or sale of invasive plant species. Ed will reseazch
� this and if appropriate, will include such a recommendation in the next version of the
recommendations draft.
Under the management and Access Plan section, the last bullet's reference to `9and use"
' will be eliminated to allow this Commission to partieipate in any proceedings discussing
issues within the Commission's scope.
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Public Meeting: There was discussion of Ed's draft of a proposed agenda for the April
, 28 public meeting. The stakeholders suggested eliminating that portion in which each
stakeholder constituency would discuss its separate interests, as too divisive. All
stakeholders were strongly encouraged to attend. Stakeholders suggested the moderator
' should review the Task Force's process. Who should present the Task Force's
recommendations was left open(though all agreed Jim Ring should present traffic
issues). Questions for clarification would be welcome at any time, but most questions
, and comments would be beld for the public comment period, when a 5 minute limiY on
any comment would be established.
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Meeting Dates: The next meetings will be held on Apri] 22, 2005 from noon to 3 p.m. in �
City Council Chambers. The public meeting is on April 28 at 7 p.m. The Task Force
meeting following the public meeting will likely be held on Friday, May 6. �
Meeting summary prepared by ,Tonathan W. Reitman, "Cask Force facilitator, 47 Ocean
Drive, Brunswick, ME 04011 (207) 729-1900,jreitman@blazenetme.net. �
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