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Meeting Minutes
11-18-97
Councilors Attending: Mike Aube, Nichi Farnham
Staff Attending: Edward Barrett, Jim Ring, Jeff Cammack, Dale Theriault,
Brian Enman, Erik Stumpfel
Others Attending: Roxanne Saucier
Meeting convened at 5:00 p.m.
1 . Proposed 1998 Golf Course Rates
Dale Theriault explained the various recommendations for membership rates and
green fees for 1998 season. One recommendation is to keep the membership
cap at 260 but eliminate Junior memberships as part of the cap. This would add
40 additional resident permits to this year's total.
There are a number of different things that are being done to improve the golf
course; golf paths, irrigation, etc. Charges for these improvements are going up
and the fee increases proposed are minor.
Councilor Aube asked if the only categories offered for non-resident users are
single and couple. Brian explained that there is a family category but at the
present time there are no family memberships sold. There are 15 singles and 8
couples. Councilor Farnham asked if fees were raised, is there a way to look at tee
times for members. Brian explained that the biggest drawback is how the tee time
is allotted. A member of the golf course may call on Friday and ask for a tee time
on Saturday and would be told it is booked. If it were changed from first come,
first serve, a lot of the tee times will be booked by the members which would not
allow enough people off the street to pay green fees, which is a money maker. Ed
Barrett pointed out the other alternative of having a system where there is a
smaller annual fee plus a discounted per round charge rather than the current
single annual fee.
Mr. Hodge pointed out that the cost for a family of four to go out and play a
round of golf and rent a golf cart would be about $100. He feels that walk-ins to
the golf course will be hurt the most. Mr. Hodge feels that if the fees continue to
grow, families won't be able to afford to play golf. Brian pointed out that they do
not have people going in and arguing about the price of the greens fees. It is a
good golf course and people are happy to pay the money to play. Committee
recommends approval.
2. Fire Suppression Fee Ordinance (information to be provided by Fire Chief prior to
meeting)
The change in the ordinance would allow the Chief to establish a set schedule of
fees according to expenditures. This would be used in cases of intentional false
alarms, which usually occur 2 or 3 times per year. Committee approved to put
on the Council agenda for first reading.
3. Request to Relocate Two Cannons from Coe Park on Court Street to the
Riverfront
Staff is requesting approval to relocate two cannons originally recovered from the
Penobscot River from Coe Park on Court Street to the Riverfront as part of the
efforts to improve the attractiveness of this area. The Historical Society is
considering placing plaques along the riverfront area with information addressing
the river history in Bangor. These cannons would compliment this idea.
Committee approves recommendation.
4. Bangor Mall - Sewer Easement
Jim Ring explained that in the process of the expansion, the surveyors for the
Bangor Mall came across a discrepancy with regard to the location of the sewer
easements described in a deed from Bert L. Wolstein to the City of Bangor and the
deed from Pauline Rudnicki to the City of Bangor and a survey of the Bangor Mall.
This survey shows the Wolstein and Rudnicki easements located, in part, under
structures at the Bangor Mall. These sewer easements were abandoned by the City
of Bangor on October 14, 1987 and were replaced by a new easement. The
release deed given by the City of Bangor to Banmak Assoc. was intended to release
those abandoned portions of the Wolstein and Rudnicki easements. Banmak
Assoc. is requesting that the City of Bangor execute a confirmatory release to this
effect. Committee recommends approval.
With no further items to discuss the meeting adjourned at 5:40 pm
Municipal Operations Committee
Meeting Minutes
11-18-97
Councilors Attending: Mike Aube, Nichi Farnham
Staff Attending: Edward Barrett, Jim Ring, Jeff Cammack, Dale Theriault,
Brian Enman, Erik Stumpfel
Others Attending: Roxanne Saucier
Meeting convened at 5:00 p.m.
1 . Proposed 1998 Golf Course Rates
Dale Theriault explained the various recommendations for membership rates and
green fees for 1998 season. One recommendation is to keep the membership
cap at 260 but eliminate ]unior memberships as part of the cap. This would add
40 additional resident permits to this year's total.
There are a number of different things that are being done to improve the golf
course; golf paths, irrigation, etc. Charges for these improvements are going up
and the fee increases proposed are minor.
Councilor Aube asked if the only categories offered for non-resident users are
single and couple. Brian explained that there is a family category but at the
present time there are no family memberships sold. There are 15 singles and 8
couples. Councilor Farnham asked if fees were raised, is there a way to look at tee
times for members. Brian explained that the biggest drawback is how the tee time
is allotted. A member of the golf course may call on Friday and ask for a tee time
on Saturday and would be told it is booked. If it were changed from first come,
first serve, a lot of the tee times will be booked by the members which would not
allow enough people off the street to pay green fees, which is a money maker. Ed
Barrett pointed out the other alternative of having a system where there is a
smaller annual fee plus a discounted per round charge rather than the current
single annual fee.
Mr. Hodge pointed out that the cost for a family of four to go out and play a
round of golf and rent a golf cart would be about $100. He feels that walk-ins to
the golf course will be hurt the most. Mr. Hodge feels that if the fees continue to
grow, families won't be able to afford to play golf. Brian pointed out that they do
not have people going in and arguing about the price of the greens fees. It is a
good golf course and people are happy to pay the money to play. Committee
recommends approval.
2. Fire Suppression Fee Ordinance (information to be provided by Fire Chief prior to
meeting)
The change in the ordinance would allow the Chief to establish a set schedule of
fees according to expenditures. This would be used in cases of intentional false
alarms, which usually occur 2 or 3 times per year. Committee approved to put
on the Council agenda for first reading.
3. Request to Relocate Two Cannons from Coe Park on Court Street to the
Riverfront
Staff is requesting approval to relocate two cannons originally recovered from the
Penobscot River from Coe Park on Court Street to the Riverfront as part of the
efforts to improve the attractiveness of this area. The Historical Society is
considering placing plaques along the riverfront area with information addressing
the river history in Bangor. These cannons would compliment this idea.
Committee approves recommendation.
4. Bangor Mall - Sewer Easement
Jim Ring explained that in the process of the expansion, the surveyors for the
Bangor Mall came across a discrepancy with regard to the location of the sewer
easements described in a deed from Bert L. Wolstein to the City of Bangor and the
deed from Pauline Rudnicki to the City of Bangor and a survey of the Bangor Mall.
This survey shows the Wolstein and Rudnicki easements located, in part, under
structures at the Bangor Mall. These sewer easements were abandoned by the City
of Bangor on October 14, 1987 and were replaced by a new easement. The
release deed given by the City of Bangor to Banmak Assoc. was intended to release
those abandoned portions of the Wolstein and Rudnicki easements. Banmak
Assoc. is requesting that the City of Bangor execute a confirmatory release to this
effect. Committee recommends approval.
With no further items to discuss the meeting adjourned at 5:40 pm