HomeMy WebLinkAbout2009-09-10 Penjajawoc Marsh / Bangor Mall Management Commission Minutes
Penjajawoc Marsh/Bangor Mall Management Commission
September 10, 2009
ATTENDANCE
Commission Members:
Lucy Quimby Cindy DeBeck Christine Babcock George William Phillips
Libby Norton George Elliott Jackie Hewitt Jim Hinds
Marion Rudnicki Tricia Quirk
Staff:
James Ring David Gould
1. Meeting was called to order at 1:04 p.m.
2. Review of August 7, 2009 with the following changes:
Correction to Gordon DeBeck’s name.
Change wording in paragraph two.
Delete first sentence in paragraph two.
Delete “Note: Artifact of Drafts to delete paragraph #3.”
Correction to Bill’s sentence.
A revised version incorporating the changes will be provided next month.
3. There was continued discussion of the Guidelines for Municipal Shoreland Zoning comparisons and
David stated he provided the Subcommittee with a copy of comparisons, but they had not met
yet. Jim Ring suggested that members email David with available time to meet and David to set
that up. Jackie asked about a timeframe for the City to act. David indicated he notified DEP that
we needed additional time to properly review. This should be no problem with DEP. Cindy asked
who was on the Subcommittee. The Members are Cindy DeBeck, George Elliott, Tricia Quirk, and
Bill Phillips. It was decided the Subcommittee would meet Thursday, September 17, 2009 @
3:00p.m., with the location to be confirmed.
4. Next for discussion was the TIF Fund Utilization recommendations. George suggested TIF
utilization as a future agenda item; he also asked if TIF funds be used in conjunction with other
agencies/entities to establish more significant benefits, etc. Jackie noted that might be good, but
might not always work if priorities between entities didn’t match. Lucy mentioned that Bangor
Land Trust was working with Orono Land Trust on the Caribou Bog project, and has periodically
sent letters to see if landowners were interested in discussing, which was a LFMF requirement. It
was also noted that LFMF could only pay appraised value for property. North American Wetlands
Conservation Act provides another possible source of grant funding. Lucy noted that while
Bangor Land Trust had its mission and representation on Marsh/Mall Commission, she was
sensitive to fact that landowners and other Marsh/Mall Commission Members may have
preference about who to (potentially) work/negotiate with. Libby requested clarification of what
“conservation easement” entails and that was explained. Tricia asked about water quality
projects or investments instead of just conservation investments (i.e. are there projects to
improve stream water quality feeding the marsh?). Cindy noted that there used to be shading in
upper stream which has subsequently been compromised by beaver activity. Jim Ring outlined
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Marsh/Mall Commission charges and the types of recommendations to make to the Council.
Jackie noted the importance of various types of habitat, including uplands. Tricia expressed
concern/fear for spending money to acquire “protected” wetlands (i.e. marsh vs. adjacent land).
Jackie and Lucy agreed, upland habitat would probably be more appropriate to focus on. Lucy
noted LMF required recreational access, but that is not required by NAWCA. George recognized
the complexities associated with the expectation for the Marsh/Mall Commission to make
recommendations, but felt that partnering with some other entity with more expertise would be
beneficial. There was brief discussion about finalizing the Commission’s Activity Report. Jim Ring
suggested that the Activity Report include a discussion about recommendations and partnering,
etc. The draft report will be revised and included in the October Marsh/Mall Agenda.
5. Next was the Bangor Land Trust Report. Lucy brought the Bangor Land Trust newsletter and a
brochure on Frogs, Logs, & Bogs. She also mentioned the greenprint map, etc.
6. Next meeting would be on Friday, October 2, 2009 with the following agenda items:
Shoreland Zoning
Revised Activity Report to include TIF utilization discussion.
7. Meeting adjourned at 2:10 p.m.
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