HomeMy WebLinkAbout2009-08-07 Penjajawoc Marsh / Bangor Mall Management Commission Minutes
Penjajawoc Marsh/Bangor Mall Management Commission
August 7, 2009
ATTENDANCE
Commission Members:
George Elliott Lucy Quimby Bill Phillips Brad Medling
Cindy DeBeck Tricia Quirk Jackie Hewett Libby Norton in for
Hope Brogunier
Staff:
Ed Barrett Jim Ring David Gould Wendy Warren
Others:
Gordon Debeck Susan Harris
The Commission met Thursday, August 7, 2009 in the City Council Chambers. The meeting was
called to order at 1:02 p.m.
David Gould provided an overview of what comparisons were done to date and explained extent
of existing vs. State recommended resource protection (i.e., 75’ vs. 250’). He also explained
why this was being discussed (i.e. new MDEP “model” resource protection zone requirements).
Other than different setbacks, the difference was in current stream protection vs. proposed
resource protection and issues/coverage close to Stillwater. Cindy noted that landowners felt
that if beavers were removed, the area would return to a stream and proposed resource
protection implications would be avoided. There was further discussion about what differences
there would be. David noted that it was not simple and still trying to sort that out. Noted also
that resource protection allowed a house if no other buildable spot on a lot, vs. overlay
prohibition within 250’. Jackie continued the discussion about implications of putting existing
development into resource protection, nonconformity, financing, and rehabilitation issues. She
also noted it wouldn’t seem practical to place a designated development area into a resource
protection, and what would be accomplished by doing so. Jim Ring indicated there were
essentially three categories of discussion/consideration:
1. Currently developed lots that would be placed into/under proposed DEP guidelines in
Resource Protection.
2. The four family lots currently excluded from setback requirements.
3. Remainder of overlay zone not included in #1 & #2.
Lucy expressed concern about making any recommendations without hearing from DEP. Bill
thought the DEP Resource Protection proposal may be too onerous for developed parcels.
George thought that current provisions of the Marsh Overlay Zone were okay and should stay.
There was discussion about how DEP could consider/accept City recommendations. Tricia
asked about the actual timeline. David responded that DEP was busy with other towns not
doing anything. DEP has noted that Bangor is trying. He also noted forested wetlands were
not required to be protected. The City had some and should they stay/or not? Gordon and
Cindy DeBeck thought prior work and current standards are appropriate. Susan Harris who has
a vacant lot, concurred.
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The next item was the Activity Report to the Infrastructure Committee. Jim Ring provided
overview and mentioned reasons for doing. Lucy and George noted some typographical errors.
Lucy suggested adding reference to benefits of Commission input process.
Lucy provided current Bangor Land Trust Report. The Greenprint Report was now complete
and online. David would provide the link to the group, via email. Frogs, Bogs, & Logs event
was up-coming in September, with 28 mile and 76 mile loops.
Items for next agenda:
Shoreland Zoning comparisons continued.
Discussion of TIF fund utilization recommendations.
Motion by Tricia, seconded by Cindy to adjourned at 1:23 p.m.
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