HomeMy WebLinkAbout2005-02-04 Penjajawoc Marsh / Bangor Mall Management Commission Minutes
Penjajawoc/Stillwater Stakeholders Task Force
February 4, 2005 Meeting
Meeting Summary
Attendance: All stakeholders attended but Jim Parker sat in for John Corbett.
Review of January 28 Meeting Summary: In the discussion of parking requirements,
the following will be added: Some communities set a minimum and a maximum number
of parking spaces. Often, demand for additional parking comes from retailers, not
developers.
In the section of differences in scientific data, the word “create” is replaced by the
word “represent.”
Presentation on Eco-Tourism: Bob Duchesne presented information about eco-tourism
and its economic impact. Currently $1.1 billion is being spent on eco-tourism and it was
suggested the Penjajawoc Marsh represents an outstanding resource for birders. Bob
noted there are a number of existing birding sites which are part of the “birder trail” in
the nearby vicinity, and the Penjajawoc would be an invaluable addition. Stakeholders
wondered how management of the sites Bob discussed prevented the birding sites from
being “loved to death” (overused). Bob noted that at most sites a management group
composed of local landowners, environmental groups and local officials managed the
sites and regulated public access.
Presentation on two current projects: Jim Parker on behalf of John Corbett and W/S
presented some schematics and aerial photos depicting their proposed project. He
stressed that no official plans have been developed and what he was presenting was a
conceptual outline of W/S’s intentions. He noted the 600’ setback from the wetland edge
accepted by W/S and the adjacent landowner (also a Task Force stakeholder). He noted
that the project currently envisions development of a part of the land on which they have
an option which could be moved closer to the rest of the development (consolidating
developed portion of the land and leaving a portion closer to the marsh undeveloped).
However, that consolidation could only occur if an issue regarding marginal wetlands is
resolved.
Kevin Kane presented the current proposal from Widewaters on land they own
along Gilman Road. At the facilitator’s request, Kevin gave a brief history of
Widewaters’ various past proposals, in order to set a context for their current proposal.
Kevin noted that theirs will be a “phased” project, with additional retail space being built
over a several year period as demand dictated. The current proposal has a 250’ “Wetland
Buffer Edge” for which nothing is contemplated (this area is currently planted in corn).
This undisturbed area represents 46% of Widewaters’ land. Kevin expressed a
willingness to provide a conservation easement for this portion which would be managed
by the Bangor Land Trust, Audubon, or another appropriate steward.
A discussion of current parking standards ensued. Widewaters’ current plan
envisions 5 parking spaces per 1,000sf of retail space (a standard often required by retail
tenants). However, he noted that as long as the parking development standards allow
Widewaters to remain competitive, he was willing to work with the Task Force and the
City to minimize the amount of parking spaces (which is in the developers’ interest).
Carol Epstein noted that while a smaller number of parking spaces might be acceptable in
a defined area because of particular environmental concerns, she was concerned that
setting a maximum number of spaces City-wide would have a detrimental affect on the
City’s competitive position, and would eliminate certain potentially valuable land uses
(e.g. medical offices) which require greater amounts of parking.
BACORD and the Audubon Society have had access to Widewaters’ plan for
several weeks and will be presenting their reactions initially to him (and then the Task
Force) by or about February 11.
Jim Ring’s Study Area Map Presentation: City Engineer Jim Ring presented a map
with lines depicting 200’, 600’ and 1,000’ from the wetland edge. T was requested that
Jim reconcile his map with the “study area” map prepared by Kate Webber and with the
Audubon report, which contains proposed buffer zones. There appeared to be a Task
Force consensus, as voiced by Judy Markowsky, that the highest priority was the
protection of the Penjajawoc Marsh, not the stream.
Ed Barrett noted that in developing its proposal for the study area, the Task Force
should bear in mind the regulatory possibilities (e.g. zoning which only permits less
intensive development as we get closer to the marsh, “no disturbance” zones, etc.).
Jim thought it was important for the Task Force to consider at its next meeting
some agreed upon objectives for the study area (e.g. larger buffer zones around the
sections of the marsh further away from Gilman and Stillwater Avenues).
Next Meeting Discussion building on Jim’s Presentation: After extensive discussion
and expression of some frustration at the Task Force’s apparent lack of progress, the
group decided that at its next meeting it will examine maps prepared by the City with the
help of various stakeholders which will try to propose “easy wins” for the Task Force
(areas of consensus about protection of the marsh in various sections).
Some stakeholders wanted to hear the Army Corps of Engineers perspective on
potential development in the study area, and in particular their comments on the proposed
Parallel Service Road. It was noted that the ACE is a branch of the U.S. Environmental
Protection Agency and may not have the final word on development in this area. While
there was agreement that such perspective may be helpful to hear at some point in the
Task Force’s deliberation, it may be too soon for that resource at this stage.
Meeting Dates: Because of the work which will be taking place between meetings, we
will skip next week and hold the next two meetings on February 18 and 25. Both will be
from noon to 3 p.m. in City Council Chambers.
Meeting Summary prepared by facilitator Jonathan W. Reitman, 47 Ocean Drive,
Brunswick, ME 04011, jreitman@blazenetme.net, 729-1900.