HomeMy WebLinkAbout1998-10-19 Finance Committee MinutesFinance Committee
Meeting Minutes
October 19, 1998
Councilors Attending: Michael Crowley, Jim Tyler, Gerry
Palmer, Joe Baldacci, David Leen
Staff Attending: Edward Barrett, Ron Heller, Dave
Pellegrino, Erik Stumpfel, Norm
Heitman, Jim Ring, Bob Farrar, Arthur
Stockus, Mike Dyer, Brad Moore, Bob
Ziegelaar
a. Radio Equipment - Combined Dispatch (Police/Fire
Departments)
Whitten's 2 -Way Services of Brewer ($22,379.02)
The only bid was received from Whitten's. The recommendation is
to accept that bid. Approved.
b. Boiler Installation (Police Department)
Sullivan s Merritt, Inc. of Bangor ($23,300.00)
Approved
C. Penobscot River Bulkhead Reconstruction - Dock 4
(Engineering Department)
Construction Divers, Inc. of Gorham ($168,854.71)
Jim Ring explained that this is to replace the first 125 feet of
bulkhead. This is a very good bid and is under the current -
budgeted amount. The original estimate was as high as $200,000-
$225,000. Recommended to Council for approval.
d. Electrical Service - New Capehart Housing (Community
Development)
LaClaire Electric of Eddington ($31,890.00)
This work is for the installation of new individual service
entrances for each of the housing units and removing the existing
military entrances. The costs associated with this will be paid
with the future proceeds of the sale of the properties.
Approved.
e. Fuel Tank Installation - New Capehart Housing
(Community Development)
Precision Tank, Inc. of Jay ($16,480.00)
Recommendation to award to low bidder. Approved.
f. Boiler Upgrades (Airport Department)
Northeast Mechanical Services of South Portland
($16,058.92)
Recommendation to award to low bidder. Approved.
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g. Fork Lift Truck (Airport Department)
W.D. Matthews Machinery of Auburn ($20,811.00)
Recommendation to award to low bidder. Approved.
h. Adjustable Frequency Drives (Wastewater Treatment
Plant(
Industrial Electric Supply of East Newport ($29,844.00)
These drives are energy efficient devices. They run the large
electric motors at the Treatment Plant. Recommendation t0
purchase from low bidder. Approved.
1. Plow 6 Wing Assembly (Motor Pool Department)
Maine Municipal Truck Equipment of Norridgewock
($13,981.00)
Request to table this item. Staff would like to further discuss
their options. Tabled.
j. Road Salt (Public Services Department)
Harcros Chemicals, Inc. of Westbrook ($161,232.00)
This is a decrease of 1 1/28 from last year. Harcros has been a
supplier in the past and has done an excellent job. Approved
recommendation.
V.
Staff requested that this equipment be purchased on a negotiated
basis rather than going to bid because the equipment and supplier
that was requested is the only one that handles this type of
equipment in the state. This is the only equipment that is felt
will work well for the City. This will allow the City to
continue to use the current hard wired system. Aron Larson of
the Electrical Division supplied the Committee with a memo
outlining the reasons for purchasing from R.H. Allen Co. The
amount of purchase is $73,450. Approved as recommended.
3.
A'ronrF mama rtment
This will standardize the Matrix system at the Airport. The card
readers in the parking lot are a different system from the
security system inside the terminal buildings. The purchase of
this equipment will combine the whole system and they will be
able to integrate both systems, which will give much better
control and better reliability on the employee and airline
personnel parking lots. Approved as recommended.
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This is the same piece of equipment that was rented previously.
It did a very good job and in record time. There are
approximately 1,000 tons of brush that needs to be cleaned up;
remnants of the ice storm. The cost is $1,000 to set up the tub
grinder and $6.00 per ton to chip it. The chips will be sold to
A. W. Chaffee for $8.50 per ton. Approved as recommended.
5.
In September, the Finance Committee approved the bid award for
the purchase of a van from Walker Chevrolet of Parsonsfield.
During that discussion Dave did not bring to the Committee's
attention some facts that later caused c n the part of the
local vendor, Varneys. In March, the Committee approved a bid
award for $21,095 for a van for the airport which was ordered
from Varney's, but never delivered. There were a lot of reasons
why they did not deliver it and finally could not. It took from
March until July for Varney's to say they had tried but never
could find the van with the specifications that were required for
close to the amount of the bid. Dave allowed them out of the bid
and agreed to re -bid for that equipment. This was done in
August. Right after the bid opening, a similar situation
happened with Darlings. Ford Motor Company did not give them all
the information and said that the van that the City requested was
not available at the price that they had quoted us. They then
asked to be excused from the bid. Dave let them go and didn't
hold them to the bid. He then recommended going to the next low
bidder which was Walker Chevrolet for $23,119. What Dave did not
point out to the Committee was that this bid was only $36 less
than the local vendor, Varney/GMC. The reasons for Dave's
recommendation were:
1. They were the low bid.
2. Varney did not honor their previous bid for $21,095 and this
resulted in the City paying an additional $2,000 for the vehicle.
3. The Doge van proposed by Walker has a slightly heavier
suspension and has a rear window defogger that Varney could not
supply.
8111 Varney called Dave about the $36 difference. He felt it was
a lack of support from the City. Dave explained that whenever
there is a bid like this it is very difficult. There is a bid
process that needs to be followed. Dave commented that staff
supports local vendors at every opportunity, especially in the
non -formal bid process. Varney/GMC has been supported over the
years. The City has purchased 11 vehicles from them since July
of 1995 and total payments have been approximately $322,000.
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Bill Varney addressed the Committee with his concerns.
rns. He
commented that he was upset not because they were the bid
on the van but because he believes that local business should
have some kind of a preference. He does not feel it should be a
percentage, it should be a common sense preference. He spoke
with others in business locally that also have concerns over
using local vendors. Mother concern Bill has is the memo from
Dave stating that Varney's cost the City $2,000 on the bid.
Bill stated that Dave was told that they could not get the yellow
van. It was not available at that time from the factory. On
March 19, Varney's was informed that they did receive the bid.
At that time, they reiterated that the yellow van
a
w not
available from the factory. In April or May, they tried to find
the van from another dealer and were unsuccessful. In July, they
received a call that indicated that the City would take a blue
van. By this time it was too late. They were unable to purchase
the van. Hr. Varney agrees that Varney/GMC take on the
responsibility, but feels that the $2,000 should not fall
entirely in their lap. Bill commented that yes, the City has
bought $322,000 worth of vehicles from Varney's since 1995 and he
appreciates the business and wants the business but they payed
approximately $325,000 in real estate taxes is that some time.
Dave added that Varney/GMC is an excellent dealer and there have
never been any problems with them.
Councilor Baldacci asked if Dave recalls the response from Bill
Varney? Dave answered that yes, but the chrome yellow is an FAA
requirement for vehicles that are regularly on the run way and
the air side of the airport. Dave talked with Bob Jarvis at the
airport who stated they would like the yellow, but it was not
absolutely critical. This van was for the individual heating
maintenance mechanic for the airport and he would not be on the
air side very often. In the end, it was decided not to get the
yellow. Regardless of the color chosen, there was nothing
available that was close to the bid that Varney's had given.
This was when Dave made the decision to throw out the bid and re-
bid.
Councilor Leen asked if this bid, since last signed, has already
been submitted to Walker Chevrolet? Dave answered that yes, the
purchase order has been sent. Councilor Leen asked Mr. Varney
what he, as a local businessman, considers to be local? As an
example, if the bid came in from Downeast Toyota and they had
beat the bid by $36.00, would he have a problem with that? Mr.
Varney answered that no, he would not, but if it were Ellsworth,
he would. Mr. Varney explained that they have been the low
bidder in other municipalities by $300-$900 and did not get the
bid because of a local dealer.
Councilor Crowley asked Dave if the color of the van from Walker
is yellow? Dave answered no. Councilor Crowley asked if when a
vendor submits a bid, does the City typically hold them to that
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bid? Dave answered yes, it is a contract. Councilor Crowley
asked if preferential treatment is shown in holding to that bid
to local versus the outside bids? nave answered no, technically
the bid amount is the last piece of the contract with the vendor.
Michael asked that although there is a policy that suggests
taking the lowest bid, can that be ignored? Erik Stumpfel
answered yes, the City Council can waive the policy.
Councilor Baldacci feels that the Council needs to be sensitive
to local business. He understands the concerns about prices and
competition. Joe is suggesting that as a policy of fairness, if
something is looked at that is less than a certain percentage, it
does not bind the Committee to accept it, but give some sort of
prior notice to local vendors. Councilor Tyler commented that
the difficulty with this is that it would not be fair that one
party address the Committee and that all parties be given the
opportunity. A bidding war should not be encouraged. Councilor
Baldacci commented that certain interests need to be balanced.
It may not change a result, but will evaluate it closer.
Councilor Leen asked what would you do if you had the same bid
process and every one of the dealers were within $1 of each
other? Councilor Leen is pointing out that the Committee should
not get involved in the figures. The point that Mr. Varney i
making is that if you get a bid from someone local, you should be
giving that business to the local individual. They pay taxes
here and have an investment in the community. Councilor Leen
agrees with Mr. Varney. Ed Barrett commented that in a lot of
instances like this, if a reason could be found to show the
difference between a local vendor and an out of town vendor on an
item, that vendor will be recommended. In many instances, a
local vendor has been chosen over a lower bidder for various
reasons. Ed commented that working on percentages would
dissuade those who are not local from bidding at all. These
types of situations happen infrequently. There are times when no
local vendor even submits a bid. Councilor Palmer feels this
issue should be revisited. There may need to be a trigger in
this process so that when the bidding is close, locals would be
aware that the bidding is close. Erik Stumpfel commented that
while this has been looked at before, there are a number of
communities that use local preferences as a tie-breaker when the
bids are equal. If you had a definition of equal bids you could
allow the local preference but the percentage should not be s
large as to drive away bidders not in this area. Ron Heller made
a point that what is trying to be done is to provide asmuch
support as possible to local vendors but there is also the
responsibility to the taxpayer to get the lowest price or the
best service for the price.
Royce Day commented that if Mr. Varney pays that much in taxes
and employs several people, he has a great investment in the City
and preference should be given to him.
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The bid can not be revisited because the purchase order has
already gone to Walker•
6. 2B9 Broadway - Matured Sewer Lien
Norm Heitmann explained that this is a routine situation. The
difference would be that the bank is involved and it is a
building that the City has a particular interest in on the corner
of Broadway and Stillwater. If the Committee Is inclined not to
take the building but to deed it back to the bank, before any
action is taken, staff would like to meet with the bank to
explore alternatives with that building. There are a number of
problems with the building. The area it is located in is a
grandfathered, non -conforming use. As of March, the apartment
use, residential use, will not longer be grandfathered. This
would leave the building as three floors above a small retail
area of no use to anyone. The policy is to go ahead and try to
get the property back to the owner if the property is brought
back to code. In this case, it is quite an expense and the bank
needs to understand what their obligations may be and what type
of commitments they will have to undertake. Recommendation to
accept staff recommendation.
]. 240 State Street - Matured Sewer Lien
The matured 1996 tax lien, a 1997 tax lien and outstanding 1998
taxes were paid on this property in February. The 1996 lien was
not quit claimed. Staff is requesting a quitclaim deed on the
property. Approved.
8, Council Resolve96-410 Anprooriatinu PERC Performance Credit
and Cash Reserves
Account
Bob Farrar explained that as part of the closing out of the
Parity deal, the City has been notified by the Municipal Review
Committee that $328,000 is to be given back to the City. The
practice is to put this money into the General Fund Improvement
Reserve Account for future use for capital projects. Approved.
9. Proposed Hardship Abatement Policy
On the basis of a number of experiences in trying to process
hardship statements, a policy was needed to specify the criteria
under which a hardship abatement would be provided and also allow
staff to be more involved in working with individuals who are
having difficulty in paying their taxes to see if there are other
alternatives that they could pursue other than asking the Council
to forgive taxes. At times, it is difficult to make the decision
without a clear set of criteria. In this policy, appeals to the
Council on hardship abatements go to the Board of Assessment
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Review and it would be helpful for them to have clear guidelines
that have been adopted. If the household meets the definition
of poverty, they would be granted an abatement if they meet a
number of conditions: if their reasonable and necessary living
expenses exceed their income and if it's for their primary
residence, they would be eligible for an abatement. A more
difficult circumstance i where s may not meet the
definition of poverty, but may be In great financial difficulty.
A preliminary determination would be made with the applicant
whether they met the criteria and try to work with them before
going before the Committee. The biggest difference is that staff
will work with the applicant, give them a preliminary reading and
try to get them into one of the other programs before they meet
with the Committee.
Erik commented that the statute relating to hardship abatements
only refers to the municipal officers making a decision yes o
no
and that could be delegated to staff. This has been discussed
before, but Council felt it needed a more hands on role. There
have been two cases before the Board of Assessment Review
recently and the board granted both of them. One that concerns
Erik is that there is a practice in the City of avoiding granting
hardship abatements by giving tax mortgages. The Board of
Assessment Review feels that under the statute, if someone can
not contribute to the public charges, they are entitled to an
abatement and not simply a deferral of the amount owed. It is
likely that in cases that come in the future, there will be the
same result.
Councilor Tyler commented that this policy appears to be more
directed to staff than to Council. None of the various methods
that have been used to disposition these at Council level are
included. Ed answered that the reason is that if someone comes
in and requests ahardship abatement, if you want to use anything
other than that as a mechanism, you must deny the abatement.
Without some kind of standard it is hard, as Council changes, to
remain consistent. Councilor Tyler asked about section 3.4
mentioning basic utilities, should they be defined to include
those things such as entertainment (cable)? Staff will look into
defining the basic utilities. Recommendation to put this before
the Council. Approved.
10. MSRS Amortization
Tabled for two weeks.
11. Executive Session: Legal Issue
12. Executive Session: Legal Issue