HomeMy WebLinkAbout2005-03-08 Planning Board Minutes
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE WORKSHOP
MEETING OF MARCH 8, 2005
MARY SNOW SCHOOL
MINUTES
Board Members Present: Robert Guerette, Chairman
David Clark
Nathaniel Rosenblatt
Hal Wheeler
Jonathan Siegel
Ryan King
Laura Mitchell
Bill Masters
City Staff Present: James Ring
David Gould
Peter Witham
Lynn Johnson
City Councilors Present: Councilor Gratwick
News Media Present: Bangor Daily News
Chairman Guerette opened the meeting at 6:30 p.m. and thanked those
present for attending. He noted that this is the fourth of four meetings held in
neighborhoods to solicit citizen comments for the Comprehensive Plan Update
Project. Chairman Guerette explained that the Comprehensive Plan is nothing
new in Bangor. The latest Comprehensive Plan was adopted in 2000 and is a 10-
year document. The City Council felt that it is in the interest of the City of
Bangor to have it updated, mid-course, to insure that it is being responsive to
the needs of the community for the entire 10-year period. Chairman Guerette
noted that the Planning Board is not a rule making body in charge of enforcing
the Land Development Code. This is the last neighborhood meeting between
now and early summer, and the Planning Board intends to put in many hours in
reviewing all of the information from the citizens and other means of public
comment. Chairman Guerette explained that when a final draft is ready, the
Planning Board will hold a public hearing to give people a chance to review the
draft before it goes on to the City Council for final passage.
Chairman Guerette asked those present to sign the attendance sheet and
to fill out a survey. Chairman Guerette asked the Members of the Planning
Board to introduce themselves. He then asked for comments from the Planning
Staff.
Planner David Gould explained that the City’s ability to do land use
regulation comes from the State of Maine. Any such regulation needs to be
consistent with the City’s Comprehensive Plan. Mr. Gould explained that the City
isn’t looking at the entire Plan but rather an interim look as to whether certain
areas of the Plan need at this point to be adjusted. The Planning Board is
holding the neighborhood workshop meetings in order to gather input for this
process. Mr. Gould noted that at one of the meetings, one of the participants
said that she needed to go home but wanted to know what the Planning Board
was going to do. The Planning Board is here to listen to citizen comments. The
role of the Planning Board is limited in terms of what they can do as the Board
does have role in site plans and subdivisions but is advisory to the City Council
regarding certain applications.
Mr. Gould discussed the population trends since 2000 and noted that
during the last decade, the population has declined. Since the year 2000, the
number of new residential developments is in excess of 300 units. While the
number of housing units has been going up, the actual number of people
residing in each housing unit is going down. Thus, the overall population is not
increasing dramatically.
Mr. Gould indicated that the City of Bangor provides services to the
outlying communities. People come to Bangor for medical services, financial
services, technical services, rental units, hospitals, the veteran’s home, nursing
homes and retail shopping centers. One underlying key of the Comprehensive
Plan is based upon the City being able to provide a full range of urban services.
The Urban Growth Boundary is the limit of urban growth and beyond that
boundary the developments will be more rural in nature. Mr. Gould explained
that within this quadrant, the most extensive amount of growth has occurred.
The lion’s share of new residential development is in this quadrant, as well as,
200,000-square feet of new retail space constructed in the Bangor Mall area.
Other activity includes Husson College’s NESCOM Building, Peabody Hall addition,
Winkin Baseball Field, the Lumberjacks; and, activity at the Broadway Shopping
Center. Since 2000, there have been 43 new multi-family units built and 202
new single-family residential house lots created. Also in this quadrant are
Bangor High School, Bangor Christian School, Prentiss Woods, the City Forest
and the Essex Street Recreation Area.
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Chairman Guerette opened up the meeting to those in the audience. Mrs.
Libby Norton, 94 Thornton Road, indicated that she was present at the meeting
on behalf of herself, and 149 members of the Penobscot County Chapter of the
Audubon. Mrs. Norton said that she is a past president and a current Board
Member. There currently are 500 members in the Penobscot Valley Chapter, 150
of which live in Bangor. Several members were present at the meeting. She
indicated that the Audubon’s main concern and interest is in the Stillwater
Avenue area and specifically, the protection of the Penjajawoc Marsh. Mrs.
Norton said that the Audubon would like to see the upland area protected with
restrictions on further development. She explained that data collected to date
suggests that the Penjajawoc Marsh could be the most significant marsh in
Maine. She urged the Planning Board to give the Marsh the priority it deserves
in the Comprehensive Plan.
Mrs. Norton also indicated that the Audubon is participating in the
Penjajawoc Task Force and that she felt that this process is working. She said
that she hopes that the City will make significant changes based on the
consensus of the Task Force. Mrs. Norton said that an Audubon Study suggests
that the City limit future development on the west side of the Marsh to 1000 feet
from the upland edge of the Marsh. They also challenge the City to develop a
new route, on the Mall side, for a parallel serviced road, one that will make use
of existing paved surfaces and stream crossings. Mrs. Norton said that the
Penjajawoc Marsh is sensitive and precious and it can be a valuable asset for the
City, as well.
On behalf of herself, Mrs. Norton thanked the Board for holding the
neighborhood meetings. She said that Bangor has a great public library, YMCA
and YWCA, senior center, and children’s museum. She asked that the downtown
be made more bus accessible. She noted that she and her husband use public
transportation and would like to see the buses running at night and on Sundays.
Another suggestion would be to close Main Street or Central Street like in
Boulder Colorado, and add more restaurants and shops. She said that if that
were done, that parking would again pose a problem and asked if a task force
would be willing to work on it. Mrs. Norton also suggested that more parking
spots be reserved, or that parking limits be extended for 2 or 3 hours, for
members of the Senior Citizen Center. Mrs. Norton said that she likes having
park and open space at the end of her street, at the City Forest and at the Orono
Board Walk. She said that Bangor is fortunate to have the Penjajawoc Marsh
and urged the Board to preserve the integrity of the Marsh. Mrs. Norton said
that more development could be placed around the Airport rather than around
the Penjajawoc Marsh.
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Ms. Hope Brogunier, 60 Leighton Street, told the Board that there needs
to be a balance of conservation needs with development pressures. She
indicated that her main concern is the value of the Penjajawoc Marsh and how to
conserve it. She said that she is grateful that the process is underway with the
Task Force to address this issue. As work goes forward, she hopes that the
outcome will be that there will be a conservation plan that will have the support
of the Planning Board. She also said that the City is long over due for a
Conservation Commission to oversee such a conservation plan and that has a
continuing part to play in reviewing the Comprehensive Plan, in a functional way,
in the application process. Ms. Brogunier noted that the City is presently
engaged in being a pilot project for a comprehensive watershed plan for the
Penjajawoc Watershed. Such a plan, when it exists, will indicate the goals for
keeping streams in compliance and how to protect open spaces. She added that
if the City had had a Conservation Commission five years ago, then it may have
been established that it was very important to pay attention to the Penjajawoc
Marsh.
Attorney Tim Woodcock, of Eaton Peabody, indicated that he represented
the Hogan Road/Stillwater Avenue Associates Group. Several Members were
present. Mr. Woodcock said that he wanted to extend their appreciation to the
Board Members and City Staff for their long hours and dedication. He went on to
say that the Stillwater Avenue/Hogan Road corridor is a vital contributor to the
City and the region with its services and goods. It is a magnet for patrons
throughout central Maine and Canada. Mr. Woodcock indicated that this area is
a substantial and vital part of the City tax base that provides for the high level of
city services, police and fire protection, schools, and City Staff. These businesses
employ many of the region's residents. This area is an important part of the
employment base of this region. Much of the area corridors have been
designated as commercial and there is a significant area left to be developed.
He said that he is aware of the significance of the Penjajawoc Marsh and aware
of Penjajawoc Task Force. He noted that no member of Hogan Road/Stillwater
Avenue Associates Group is on that Board but they are watching closely.
Mr. Woodcock indicated that all businesses in this area feel fortunate to
do business in Bangor and appreciate the highly skilled staff. They feel that the
corridors and the area should remain open for development in any new edition of
the Comprehensive Plan. This area provides a wide array of professional
services. Mr. Woodcock noted that the City of Bangor designated this area for
growth and the Comprehensive Plan revision should encourage growth. Growth
should be managed not discouraged. If directed elsewhere, it would create
sprawl. Mr. Woodcock noted the Gorrill & Palmer and Associates (Stillwater
Avenue Corridor Study) recommendation of minimum impacts to Penjajawoc
Stream while at the same time recommending minimal sprawl to other areas of
Bangor. Growth should not be unreasonably restrained. When people go from
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one area of the City to get one service and then to another area to get another
service, then there are traffic difficulties and co-location of businesses gain an
efficiency in traffic.
Mr. Carl Norton, 94 Thornton Road, told the Board that he did not want
any more concentration of stores with large parking lots. He indicated that he
would like to avoid urban sprawl, protect open space, protect the Penjajawoc
Marsh, and he hopes that the City encourages a supply of affordable housing.
Mr. Norton also told the Board that he hopes that the City will consider sidewalks
in all new subdivisions and repair the sidewalks around town that are in “lousy
condition.”
Ms. Judy Markowsky said that she grew up in Bangor and was at the
meeting representing the Maine Audubon Society that owns land off of Essex
Street and borders on the Penjajawoc Marsh. The Audubon was offered a
donation of this land. She said that the Marsh is an amazing resource. She told
the Board that the Marsh reminds her somewhat of the Florida Everglades. She
recalled a recent birding trip to North Dakota and indicated that in June 2006,
600 avid birders of the American Birding Association will be traveling to Bangor
for a conference. They will spend a week to ten days here and that will be a
boost to the local economy with vehicle rentals, hotel rentals, etc. Ms.
Markowsky said that the Penjajawoc Task Force is a big step in the process of
working in the right direction and said that the Audubon wanted the Planning
Board to know how important the Penjajawoc Marsh is to so many people.
Mr. Paul Templeton, 28 Grant Street, told the Board that he had skied the
last three or four mornings on the Caribou Bog. He indicated that he appreciates
the need for commercial and economic growth and the need to make a living.
He told the Board that he works at EMMC with a group of physicians who are
trying to attract people to the area. He said that the easy access to the outdoors
and less traffic makes Bangor an attractive place for people to locate. He asked
that consideration be made to balancing growth and the assets that Bangor has.
Ms. Leslie Dickenson, 153 Norfolk Street, relocated here from Baltimore,
Maryland for the quality of life and for a better place to raise her child. She said
that she likes the easy access to the outdoors and is very happy to be able to
access the City Forest, and the Kenduskeag. She told the Board that she would
like to see continued public access at the waterfront, with a bike path along the
river to tie into other paths in the City for an alternative mode of transportation.
Ms. Dickenson also expressed her concern about the Penjajawoc Marsh and with
sprawl, adding that once the resources are gone, they are gone. She also noted
the need for affordable rental housing for lower income people.
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Mrs. Loraine Rhodes, 214 Broadway, indicated that the lower end of the
Broadway Historic District in the area where the properties overlook Broadway
Park is an insult to the overall neighborhood and she is very concerned about the
properties in her area. She indicated that she felt that certain properties are
being permitted to be neglected beyond limits. She indicated that she would like
for Code Enforcement, the Historic Preservation Commission, and the City
Council to devote some of their energies to these neglected properties.
Mrs. Jeanne Rudnicki, 171 Gilman Road, pointed out to the Board that not
once did she hear anything said about the landowners. Mrs. Rudnicki said that
this is all about what they want and this point should be brought up by the
landowners.
Mrs. Helen Whitty, 93 Packard Drive, agreed with Mrs. Rudnicki, and
asked the Board to take the landowners into consideration.
Ms. Hope Brogunier, indicated that Marion Rudnicki and the other
landowners are a very import part of the stake holder process. The comments
that have been made with respect to the task force process is an expression of
how all of those in favor of protecting the Marsh feel about wanting to have a
Conservation Plan. Ms. Brogunier indicated that that will happen only and if the
property owners are a part of the process.
Ms. Carrie Stupak, of 750 Stillwater Avenue and representing Cindy
DeBeck, a stakeholder and landowner, told the Planning Board that a 1000-foot
setback from the Marsh is asking too much. She encouraged the Board to walk
1,000 feet to see just how far that is.
Mr. George Elliot, 106 Balsam Drive, indicated that he would like for the
Comprehensive Plan to reflect the work of the Penjajawoc Task Force. He said
that he thought that the Task Force is a responsible committee that is doing a
good job and that their recommendations should carry a lot of weight during
consideration of the Comprehensive Plan Update. He said that the Task Force
represented a cross section of all stakeholders who have an interest in that area.
He said that he felt that the proposed parallel access road was an environmental
disaster and he did not think that it will reduce the traffic load on Stillwater
Avenue and may increase it. He said that it would open up more area for
development and put more pressure on the Marsh.
Ms. Peggy Hughes, Hughes Management, indicated that she would like to
see more help from the City for developers to build affordable housing. She
noted that in rural communities there is help available from the USDA. However,
there is no such help from the City. She urged the City to work with developers
to attract people to come in and to keep people in the downtown. There are a
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lot of folks who are in need who do not have cars and need to be close to work
and the bus. She said that it seems as though there should be a development
plan to work with developers for more affordable housing. She asked for tax
relief for the developers.
Mr. James Davitt , 59 Hudson Road, told the Board that he is concerned
about urban sprawl and the Penjajawoc Marsh. He said that where he lives is
one of the last rural areas within the City limits. He asked the Planning Board to
keep in mind the preservation of open space perhaps by developing a way to
make it easier for landowners to keep open space through incentives. Mr. Davitt
said that if development is not watched, the open space will disappear.
Chairman Guerette asked the audience how they felt about development
and when and what type should be promoted, if public facilities are adequate; if
the City should provide new services or improvements, should the City
concentrate efforts on the downtown, Bass Park, public schools, traffic
circulation, landscaping along major roadways, public safety, budget priorities,
management of resources, current development or conservation issues, codes
and ordinances.
As no one else from this quadrant wished to speak, Chairman Guerette
then opened the discussion up to those from other quadrants.
Ms. Gail Downs, 106 Balsam Drive, indicated that she has concerns with
City services. She asked if City Hall could be open one evening a week for
people who work a 9-5 workday. She added that if the issue is that the City
can’t afford to pay people for more hours, then City Hall could be closed one
afternoon a week so that it could be open more hours to all.
Ms. Valerie Carter, 112 Birch Street and President of Bangor Area Citizens
for Responsible Development, said that over the past four years that it has
become very clear that there is a need to revise the City’s Comprehensive Plan.
The one single thing that continues to underlie BACORD is that there is one
Penjajawoc Marsh that is very special and possibly the best in the State. She
said that the Penjajawoc Task Force has brought contentious people into the
same room who do not necessarily want to talk to each other. She stressed how
important she felt it was to preserve the Penjajawoc Marsh. Ms. Carter also
expressed her concerned about the traffic on the tree streets from the
development from that area. She expressed her concern that Transition Area 12
goes right up to the boundaries of the Penjajawoc Marsh. She asked that the
parallel service road be located on the other side of Stillwater Avenue and away
from the Penjajawoc Marsh. Ms. Carter said that the Drew Lane area residents
feel betrayed that development was allowed to be developed in a residential
area. Ms. Carter also said that when people move from Bangor to Glenburn, that
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is sprawl. She thanked the Planning Board for holding the neighborhood
meeting.
Mr. Clift Guthrie, 360 Lincoln Street, indicated that when he asked about
the racino and how it would impact the Bass Park Area it was being proposed
before any traffic impact study was done. He said that his impression was that it
would be built and then see what happens with the traffic. Mr. Guthrie said that
sprawl is the tyranny of the automobile. He said that the quality of life makes it
impossible for him to walk to do his grocery shopping, to go to work, and to visit
in the community. Mr. Guthrie said that he enjoys walking along the
Kenduskeag Stream and asked if it would be possible or if any thought had been
given to making a pathway or walkway along the Penobscot River.
Ms. Nancy Larson, an Orono resident, told the Board that because Bangor
is a regional area, what happens here affects her life everyday. She said that
development isn’t what it used to be. It now has a very large impact that will
affect an area for generations. She told the Board that she works in Bangor and
grew up in Maine. She indicated that the Lewiston/Auburn historic character has
been devastated and she would like to see Bangor maintain its historic character.
Ms. Larson indicated that she felt that the mall area needed balance and that the
Penjajawoc Marsh area is as close to their hearts as it is close to those who own
the land. She said that she felt that both sides need to be given serious
consideration.
Ms. Christina Diebold, a Palm Street resident, thanked the Board for
holding the public meetings. She said that she wanted the Planning Board to
realize its role in traffic problems. She lives on one of the tree streets and is
concerned about the increasing traffic on Stillwater Avenue. She said that she
felt that every land use decision does affect traffic and that large retail
development will make traffic worse. She said that she hopes that the
Comprehensive Plan can be revised so that it does not allow development close
to the Penjajawoc Marsh.
Ms. Cathy Annan, an Old Town resident and a nurse at Eastern Maine
Medical Center, told the Board that she moved here from Wisconsin. She said
that Bangor is very car oriented and asked that alternative transportation be
encouraged. She also suggested that development be walkable or bikeable, that
there be more trees and green areas, and that small parks be scattered among
development. Ms. Annan told the Board that she liked the open field where
Circuit City is located. She asked the Board to make development life sustaining,
add more trees per ratio of pavement in large parking lots, and have a
moderation of big box developments.
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Mr. Bruce Helper, a west side resident, echoed what Ms. Annan said and
added that there needs to be a change in terms of where development is
occurring. He said that it seems to him that development is based around the
car and he noted that he used to be able to walk over to the Hannaford
Supermarket at Third Street. Since the store closed, there has been a change in
society. He noted that he recently took his child to the dentist whose office is
located on Stillwater Avenue across from the Mall. While waiting, he thought he
might walk over to the Mall. However, because of the heavy traffic he felt he
would be taking his life in his hands and decided to drive over to be safe.
Chairman Guerette indicated that he felt that it was important to have the
opportunity for the Planning Board to come out into the community to get citizen
input. He noted that the Planning Board normally meets the first and third
Tuesday of each month in the City Council Chambers of City Hall and the
meetings are open to the public. He asked if anyone else wished to speak.
Ms. Valerie Carter said that she would like to have a City that encourages
walking and biking and not be so car dependent. She ask the Planning Board
how these suggestions and comments would find their way into the
Comprehensive Plan and what the role of the Planning Board is. She also said
that she felt that there needs to be room for interpreting things as reality is
never cut and dry.
Chairman Guerette explained that the Board is not writing the
Comprehensive Plan for the first time nor doing a major revision. It is simply
taking a pause half-way through the 10-year time period. The Board is taking
into consideration events of the last five years, trying to assess them to see what
their impacts are and if the City should continue in the same direction. The
Board will also take into consideration access, opportunities for walking, traffic,
safety, preservation of green areas, and natural habitats. He noted that the
Planning Board is a volunteer Board and is guided by the current Comprehensive
Plan. He noted that the Board has requested copies of comprehensive plans
from other cities to look at different ways to organize plans in order to help the
Board implement these changes. When the Planning Board has short meetings
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on the 1 and 3 Tuesdays of each month, they will discuss the information
gathered from these four neighborhood meetings, review it and assimilate it.
Any special meetings of the Planning Board will be open to the public and will be
held to continue these discussions, and to arrive at some recommendation.
Once made, the Board will hold public hearings to let the public have a chance to
comment on the Draft update before it is presented in final form and sent on to
the City Council for approval. Chairman Guerette indicated that that approval
will constitute an update of the Comprehensive Plan. This is not a light or small
task but a very significant undertaking. Bangor is a City of 32,000 people and
the Board has heard comments from approximately 200 people. He noted that
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the Planning Board is extremely grateful for these comments as they will be the
data base subject for debate.
Chairman Guerette said that there won’t be any wholesale changes of
zoning and landowners won't wake up one day and no longer be able to do
something with their property other than having a bike path on their land.
Everything said here is important and the Board will try to incorporate the
suggestions into a document for its citizens and business people. It is a big
project.
Chairman Guerette thanked everyone attending the meeting and the
meeting was adjourned at 8:21 p.m.
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