HomeMy WebLinkAbout2009-11-06 Penjajawoc Marsh / Bangor Mall Management Commission Minutes
Penjajawoc Marsh/Bangor Mall Management Commission
November 6, 2009
ATTENDANCE
Commission Members:
George Elliott Lucy Quimby Jim Hinds Brad Medling
Cindy DeBeck Christine Babcock Marion Rudnicki Judy Kellogg
George Markowsky
Staff:
Jim Ring David Gould Wendy Warren
Others:
Cassie Babcock
The Commission met Friday, November 6, 2009 in the City Council Chambers. The meeting
was called to order at 1:01 p.m.
The October 2, 2009 minutes were reviewed with Jim Hinds informing the Commission of the
“mystery news” indicated in the last meeting minutes of a 1.05 million dollar purchase of
property in Caribou Bog project area. The purchase includes James Sewall 850 acre and now
preserves the area around Perch (formerly Mud) Pond in Old Town. The University will own
and there will be a conservation easement, plus two other University of Maine parcels would be
linked. The minutes were motioned by Cindy and seconded by Marion for approval.
David provided an overview of impacts/differences between DEP recommendations for 250’
Resource Protection Zone versus the current Overlay Zone provisions.
Map changes – buildings (implications on comm. properties, Stillwater Avenue, etc.)
Text changes – minor
The real issues relate to regulation of buildings and forestry practices within 250’ of the wetland
edge. Jim noted that consideration of proposed regulations should be on two levels, Citywide
and in Marsh/Mall Overlay Zone. David provided a comparison information sheet. David
explained and indicated the City recommendation was to keep current Marsh/Mall Overlay Zone
except forestry activities to be regulated by State. The subcommittee agrees with that. Lucy
asked if there were similar issues/concerns about agriculture. David noted preliminary
discussion with the Planning Board and issue of map depiction of wetland boundaries versus
actual (on ground) location. He explained the need to have a good onsite survey and
verification of wetland locations. George motioned and seconded by Cindy to recommend 1)
Maintain existing Overlay provisions per the Task Force recommendations, including the existing
TIF for conservation around the Marsh and 2) Forest management regulation to be by the
State.
Jim Ring provided a memo and overview of the TIF to date and projects for the future.
Currently there are two TIFs in the Overlay Zone: 1) Home Depot 2) Walmart. The estimated
annual revenue from these two properties would be $120,000. Some additional projects that
could potentially be constructed: 1) Widewaters additional buildings, $850 estimated annual
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revenue. 2) ALSID, $7,850 estimated annual revenue. 3) Eremita & Valley on Hogan Road
Extension, $8,000 estimated annual revenue. The total potential additional annual TIF revenue
would be $16,700. Overall annual revenue likely would be $120,000 to $136,700. Lucy
suggested that a letter be sent to landowners following a format similar to what Bangor Land
Trust has used. Cindy raised concern about not spending dollars for property that was not
under threat of development. Jim Ring suggested getting input and guidance from the City
Solicitor about utilization of TIF revenues.
Next, Lucy outlined recent activities of the Bangor Land Trust. She informed the Commission
she went to Portland, Oregon to present the City’s Greenprint project as a case study, etc. to
the national Land Trust Alliance Rally. The Greenprint will be housed at PVCOg. She
mentioned the economic development strategy that St John, New Brunswick, had used of
marketing their city to attract people to move there and help develop the economy. She also
mentioned the “Mobilize Maine” asset-based development project. She noted that the
Greenprint and the open spaces it identifies are definitely a significant asset. She also
mentioned the “Intertwine” collaborative in Portland, Oregon, and Vancouver, Washington.
This is a regional project to facilitate recreational access to natural areas and market this as a
local amenity. Lucy also mentioned that she had heard that PVCOG may separate from EMDC,
and that Clint Duschenes, Hermon’s Town Manager, wants to work together with the Greenprint
communities to move forward on this project.
A motion was made by Jim Hinds and seconded by George Elliott to adjourn at 2:20p.m.
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