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Government Operations Committee
Tuesday, January 23, 2007
Minutes
Councilor Attendance: Allen, Gratwick, Palmer
Staff Attendance: Barrett, Farrar, Cammack, Winslow, Yardley
1. Ambulance Billing Agreement – Bangor Fire Department and Glenburn/
Hudson Ambulance Service
The City of Bangor Fire Department currently provides ambulance billing services
to a number of communities and organizations. Glenburn/Hudson Ambulance
Service has expressed interest in having their ambulance billing handled by
Bangor Fire. This can be accomplished with existing staff and will provide
additional revenue for the Fire Department. The Agreement is similar to others
presently in place, and we would recommend your approval.
Chef Cammack- We currently handle the billing for 7 other communities and we
are looking to enter into an agreement with the town of Glenburn/Hudson.
Palmer asked what kind of revenue would we be looking at for this? Chief’s
response is that Glenburn/ Hudson’s Ambulance Service does about 400 calls a
year and the contract would require them to give us $12 per call. That is about
$4800 for that service. There is a one time up front cost of about $500 for
adding another vender to our billing software and they would pay that additional
cost. Gratwick – the larger prospective from the 8 communities means that we
are going to be bringing in how much? Cammack responds by saying that
currently the communities that we do the billing for equals to about $36,000 in
revenue. So this would add another $4800. We do not need to add any
additional staff or computers. We are going to do this with the existing staff.
Gratwick comments that the more people that make use of this resource; the
better it is all around. If Glenburn were going to do this on there own what
would they have to pay? Cammack – Usually in other smaller towns they have
someone else do it such as the Town Clerk or the Finance Director. What they
find is that they often lack the expert technology to do this. Most do not have a
billing software, and their reimbursement really plummets. With the
communities that have had us take on their billing and getting feedback from
them, we have found that their revenue has increased because we have the folks
and the expertise to provide what they need for billing. They not only look at it
as a way in which they can reduce cost but also increase their revenue. There is
no downside for us. For example, if someone does not pay their bill it becomes
a problem for Glenburn as opposed to Bangor. Everything that is on the bill
appears to the patient that it comes from that community. There is no
interaction with us once that bill is sent to the patient. Palmer asks if there is
any right to advertising should the City want to talk about concerts coming up at
the Bangor Auditorium or anything else in that billing? Do we ever think in those
terms as additional revenue generation or easy marketing to the folks in
Glenburn or the other communities? Cammack responds that he has never
looked or thought about that type of advertisement but we are not prohibited
from that happening. A motion was moved and seconded to approve staff
recommendation.
2. Request to Apply for a VISTA Position at Bangor Health and Welfare
Department
Recently, the University Of Maine Center for Aging approached the Health and
Welfare Department and encouraged them to apply for a Senior VISTA position.
The person in the position would help represent the Health and Welfare
Department with senior related issues, topics and groups. Additionally, the
position would provide a senior perspective within the Department including
advising program managers to ensure that programs are senior appropriate and
effective. The Center for Aging has indicated they are willing to waive the
customary salary contribution from the participating agency (the City, in this
case). The City’s obligation would be to provide a work location including a
telephone, desk and computer. This offer presents a unique opportunity to
participate in the VISTA program at no cost and in an area (senior issues/topics)
of growing concern. Staff recommends moving forward to develop a contract
with the Center for Aging, which would return to the full Council for
consideration.
Yardley - Recognizing that we are in the middle of a budget year and that there
is not a lot of extra money, VISTA is willing to consider our application without
the requirement of putting up money to cover some of the cost of the salary. So
the only expense to the City for this one year position would be the office
support, which includes the phone, office space, desk, etc. He thinks he would
be able to absorb this with vacancies and surplus equipment. The Health and
Welfare Department is already wired for a couple of extra computer stations for
the interns that we have from time to time. He thinks it would be a good
opportunity to enhance what we do around the elderly, not only in the
community but back in our various departments. He thinks it would be good for
Patti Hamilton to have someone that has this specialty and could bring
information back for the nurses, and also to the immunizations and general
assistance departments. He thinks we, as a department, under serve the elderly.
There are barriers, both cultural and otherwise to accessing a lot of the services
and he thinks we could do a better job and thinks this position would be a low
risk way to enhance our expertise in the issue of elders. Allen is concerned that
is position is tied into a federal grant. She asked how does one take a position
that is tied into a federal grant and tie the matching funds to infrastructure costs
as opposed to salary costs? Yardley answered Allen by saying that the University
has indicated willingness to absorb that cost and will be somehow paying the
entire cost of this VISTA position. He did not inquire with them how they were
going to do that because he didn’t think it was his concern. What he said to
them was that he wouldn’t be able to find the 3 or 4 thousand dollars in this
year’s budget to cover that expense and they said they would take care of it.
The question was raised if this would be a student or a faculty member and the
answer Yardley gave was that typically it would be a post-graduate of a BA or
masters degree program that is looking to do community service in a specialty
area. They commit to a year service and often times there is a component
where they have some of their student loans paid back. In other words, this
would be a graduate of the University that is looking to do, not volunteer work,
but community service work. It could be someone anywhere in the country that
applies through this program and accepted as a VISTA eligible person and then
we interview them and decide if we want to hire them as a VISTA at our site.
They then become affiliated with the center on aging at the University and are
stationed with us. Palmer asked about their benefit package and their
healthcare. Yardley said that it was his understanding that they are provided a
healthcare program through the Federal VISTA Program. He recalls with the
Americorps/VISTA program they receive their benefits through their employment
as part of the Americorps/VISTA and then they are assigned to our work station
and get paid through the University. There benefit package is based on the
VISTA program. Palmer then asked if we have any other VISTA employees
within the City departments? Yardley responded by saying that he has an
Americorps/VISTA employee at Park Woods and she is doing her second year
there. She runs our Learning Center and is working great. We pay for that
program and we budgeted into the Park Woods budget. We paid $3,000 for the
first year and $4,000 for the second year. It is full time and she is staffing the
Learning Center and has been able to staff it for the last two years. We are open
afternoons and evenings and they have some weekend functions also. She is
from Old Town and she has a BA in education and this is what she chooses to
do. She is a great asset to the City and is doing a great job for us. Gratwick
points out that he understands that the VISTA program is a wonderful domestic
Peace Corps which brings the socially conscious recent college graduate back to
work in our own country. They do all sorts of wonderful things for the local
community for not a lot of money. We should try and get more of these people
to help out because a lot of their salaries are paid for by the federal government.
If we can do that then we might get a group of young energetic people and start
them off in a role of a public service path. To answer Gratwick, Yardley said
that The Center of Ageing is a fast growing part of the University School of Social
have been very successful in partnering on a number of issues both within the
state and throughout New England. They are doing a lot of creative innovative
work around the issue of ageing and they have a very active board and well
represented by very prominent local people. They have been around for the last
5 – 6 years. Yardley is really excited about the prospect of a more formal
relationship with them. Allen asked why wasn’t the Eastern Area on Aging, that
has been very much a part of this community, been put into the Department of
Welfare and why is this one surpassing them all? Yardley answered Allen by
saying that the other organizations that Allen mentioned does not have the same
type of volunteer that this program offers. Yardley works very closely with
Eastern Area Agency and we partner on a number of things. They are involved
in both of the groups that he referenced, such as the Dash Network and the
Greater Bangor Collation and Elder Abuse. They don’t happen to offer this type
of program that he is aware of. Allen responded by saying that they offer
programs that go to the individual’s home and interact with the individual and
work within the community framework. She does not see where this one is that
much more of an exception then the other two. Yardley responded by saying
that it is not his intention that this position would serve elders directly. It
wouldn’t be direct service, it would be working with Health and Welfare and
perhaps throughout the City bringing the issues of seniors to our attention so we
are better trained and better aware of those needs. It is also to act as a liaison
to some of those other committees. We refer all the time to the services to the
Eastern Area Agency. This is not about duplicating or even filling a gap in
service that is out there. It is about more of a community organizing kind of
position as apposed to a direct service position. For example, they might
organize training with the police department that might benefit them in working
with elders, or his GA case workers making Park Woods a little friendlier in the
sense of an environment for seniors. Their interest in partnering with a
municipality, particularly Bangor, is a unique one because there are not other
municipalities that have a Health and Welfare Department. So we provide a
unique partnering opportunity that they obviously see the benefit too. This is all
above board and the federal requirements are going to be followed in this grant.
If this works, then he will be planning to put 8- 10 thousand into his budget for
those kinds of positions in future years. A move was made and seconded to
approve staff’s recommendation and will go onto full Council, once a final
agreement has been reached with the University.
3. Discussion of Education Campaign and Designation of Fine Payments
Regarding Council Ordinance 07-050, Smoking in Motor Vehicles.
During the consideration of Council Ordinance 07-050, there was interest
expressed in having a follow-up discussion regarding two topics: a public
education campaign and how any fine money received would be designated/
used. The suggestion was made that these topics be scheduled for the next
Government Operations Committee agenda for Committee/Council staff
discussion of approaches and options.
Winslow pointed out that he does not feel like the money received from these
fines will be a large amount. He checked the revenue line for code violations for
the last couple of years and one year it was $650 and the other was $840. The
police department does not write a lot of ordinance violations. A couple of the
ordinance enforcements that affect the police department directly are, the
curfew ordinance there were a hand full of those over the course of a year. We
used the opportunity to get the kids off the street and get them reconnected
with their families and do not look to see how many tickets we can write.
Another one that has been used is the cruising ordinance that prohibits people
from looping in certain areas downtown. Again that worked well initially to help
solve a problem. It was a tool given to us to help deal with the problem. So we
are not looking for a large amount of revenue here. I have instructed my
officers that they should use this opportunity to help educate these people,
particularly in the first few months as people get use to this new ordinance. It
has obviously attracted a great deal of attention. The data has not been entered
into the system; therefore, I have not been able to query to see if anyone has
been warned for the issue. I have queried 5 or 6 officers and haven’t found one
that has stopped anyone yet. They have not seen any violations. It is our
intention not to be out there aggressively trying to see how many people we can
catch but as officers came across violations they would choose to stop them and
use the opportunity to educate people. Dr. Shenkin added that he feels that any
revenue from this ordinance be symbolic and used towards educational
campaign. Due to the small amount of revenue expected he doesn’t feel that a
campaign the size that people were looking for is possible. Palmer added he
feels this is a beginning. He believes that since the issue is secondhand smoke,
that he would hope that most of the curriculum would be surrounding that issue.
There is a lot out there about how smoking is bad for your health but the whole
concept of what happens with secondhand smoke is where our focus should be.
OSHA has regulations for employees in confined areas but in a vehicle with
children with young lungs we have the only ordinance in America. Hopefully we
can do a better job to make people aware of the dangers and find other ways to
safeguard our population from those issues. One thought of his is that a lot of
the people that are going to be smoking in their vehicles are people soon to be
graduating from high school in Bangor and he wonders if there is a way to
develop some sort of educational moment for these graduates about the dangers
of smoking in these vehicles as well as younger children that can help educate
their parents. This could be similar to the use of seat belts. Many parents use
their seat belts because their children tell them to or because their grandchildren
tell them to. Gratwick asks Barrett to estimate what he thinks the value of the
recent two week public education campaign that has been going on for folks in
Bangor, such as national papers, New York Times, television coverage, etc. What
would be the value of that campaign already undertaken because of this publicity
if we had to pay for all of it? Barrett responded that if we excluded the national
TV time he believes that it would run in the range of about 1 million dollars.
That might or might not cover the TV time but it would be in that range. There
have been a significant amount of coverage and he is unaware of everywhere it
has been. He did know that after a Google search the day after the Council
adopted the ordinance the story was picked up by at least 120 media outlets
around the country. Barrett does not think there has ever been an issue that
has produced so much email in the City of Bangor. Answering Palmer’s question
he feels that this would be a major first step in the process of education.
Gratwick asked that due to the small amount of money expected in revenue of
this ordinance, will the money go back into the budget and then used as regular
City general funds? Or is this money, however small it is, set aside and then
used down the road to dedicate to seniors, students, etc. for grants for the best
advertising relating to this. In other words, to carry it another step with the goal
being educational as opposed to a sign on the back of a bus, or a spot on the
radio station. Barrett responded by saying that the money does go back into the
general fund. It is reflected as a revenue item in the police department. It is
easy enough to dedicate the source of revenue, so it would be easy enough to
dedicate this fund that specifically came from violations of this ordinance to a
dedicated cause. Allen asked if there is any possibility of accessing this tobacco
fund that exists in the State Of Maine for some type of advertising. Yardley
responded by saying that when smoking was prohibited on Health and Welfare
grounds, it was tobacco funds that helped pay for the signage that went up all
around our campus. It did not cost the City any money and the big metal signs
said “this is green space, no smoking”. He is sure that we can work with these
folks to do that. There is a new RFP coming out in the end of March for all the
new tobacco money for next year. Depending on what the RFP requires, we
could build into our application something that says some of the things that we
would like to do based on our experience. The tobacco money is all tied into the
Public Health Infrastructure Development, but his department received about
$250,000 each year for the last 4 or 5 years to do tobacco related programming.
That includes the staff and overhead expenses, but that is the core funding for
the Healthy Maine Partnership monies. Based on what the state is looking to do,
he would anticipate that there will probably be 1 million to 1 ½ million dollars for
Penobscot/Piscataquis County. He feels that there would be a possibility of being
able to use this money towards education/advertising for secondhand smoke
because of the bold position the Council has taken in this issue. Hawes
mentioned that the BDN publishes newspapers in education. They do that on
different topics and they have students that design ads that are paid for by local
business. Maybe they would consider using this as a public safety issue. It was
also mentioned that these funds be set aside for a year and then look at what
we have. Yardley is also looking into the available funds for the educational
process that would probably give the City much more to work with than what we
would have at this moment. Palmer suggested that the electronic bill boards that
are used to inform the downtown area of the overnight parking bans could then
be used in the school area’s warning drivers of the ordinance. Hawes suggested
that someone find out if the schools have newspapers and maybe they would
generate a program within their school that could do flyers relatively
inexpensive. Hawes is looking for some direction on what the committee wants
to do. She feels that everyone is looking to hold that money aside but we need
to decide what our options are. Barrett said the first thing we need to do is to
ask the Police department to track any revenues that we actually receive and if
we do start to receive any revenue before the end of the year, that we return
and set it aside in a reserve fund for this purpose. Even a small amount could be
helpful in offsetting some costs. Second, he thinks Yardley should pursue the
notion of trying to get the State to run some sort of statewide campaign on the
issue of secondhand smoke, and/or doing something with some of the local
money specially targeted to that. He thinks we have come up with a series of
suggestions tonight that we can follow up on. There are two radio ads that are
being run now. We can see if the radio stations will donate the commercials to
us and then we can broadcast them on our television station. Yardley said he
was on the board of the Maine Children’s alliance so he might be able to work
something out. Even with a small amount of money Barrett says we can still
print out information to give out to police officers so that when give out a
warning they will have something to give them that explains and talks about the
hazards for children. He thinks we should follow up on these things and track
things and if we do start seeing revenues we can ask Cyr to set something up
and designate the funds. A motion was made and seconded to approve the
staff’s recommendation. Barrett reminded Yardley to report back to the
committee after he received the RFP from the State and has a better
understanding of the kinds of items that they are looking for in that RFP and if
our thinking will fit into what the State will allow. Dr. Shenkin added that he felt
that the City should also accept donations from citizens who what to make a
healthier community for their kids. He feels that we might raise more money
than you would expect by doing so. Barrett’s response to Dr. Shenkin was that
the Council can make a generalized request and we would be happy to accept
funds, but you cannot make specific requests out of fear of conflict of interest.
Groups outside the City can organize a campaign requesting the donations be
made to the City. If you are interested in doing that we need to talk more
because we normally come up with some agreement about how that will work.
This would be similar to what we did for Dakin Pool folks.
The meeting adjourned at 6:10 p.m.