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Government Operations Committee
April 14, 2009
Minutes
Councilor Attendance: Wheeler, D’Errico, Blanchette, Gratwick, Palmer
Staff Attendance: Barrett, Farrar, Cammack, Dubois,
Others:
1. Ambulance Billing Agreement with the Baileyville Ambulance Corps and
Town of Baileyville
The item was moved, seconded, and recommended for approval to the City Council.
2. Proposed Amendments to the City of Bangor Charter – Nominating
Petitions and Candidate Order on Election Ballots.
Blanchette will assume Chair due to Wheeler’s conflict of interest. Heitmann
stated that the number of names on the petition is determined by the City
Charter and requires that Council candidates secure 150 signatures and that
School Board candidates secure at least 100 signatures. Heitmann stated that
Wheeler approached him about the difference between the two. The City looked
at other offices and communities and found that communities such as Portland,
Augusta, Brunswick and South Portland have the same numbers for the Council
as with the School Committee. One possibility is to change the number of
signatures for both City and School to be the same but that change would need
to be done by a vote of the citizens of Bangor. This can be put on the ballot by
petition brought by citizens or by Council Order. It could appear on a June
election, special election or on the November election. Because of the
requirement on the turnout, this would require 30% of the numbers in the last
gubernator election. It only makes sense to have it at the next regular election.
The City would need to have a turnout of approximately 3,400. Historically on
Special Elections and even Primary Elections it is difficult to get that kind of turn
out. This would give the City plenty of time to get this item on the November
Ballot.
The other issue Heitmann looked into is the order that names appears on the
ballot. In Bangor, names are in alphabetical order according to the Charter. In
order to change this, it would require a vote by the citizens of Bangor and again
with the same requirements. Some communities list the names by the order in
which applicants are received, and others draw names from a hat. There is
nothing that requires the names to be alphabetical. Heitmann referred to a
study that found some benefit to being the first name on the ballot. This is a
concern to anyone that happens to be the last name on the ballot.
Wheeler stated that there are two factors that prompted him to introduce his
concerns; the first reason is the need for consistency between the number of
signatures required for the School Committee and the City Council. He
recognized that the City Council exercises a wider range of authority but to say
that the seat on the City Council is more important then the seat on the School
Committee would be not only wrong but a disservice to the importance of the
School Committee. The second reason is somewhat forward looking. There has
been an accelerated influx in younger adults to the City over the last 10 years or
so. During the process of nominating people for positions on City boards and
committees the City has had the great pleasure and excitement of hearing from
quite a few individuals in their 30’s and late 20’s. He feels that these young
people would serve admirably on the City Council but do not have the advantage
or network of friends and acquaintances that those citizens that have lived here
for 40, 50 or 60 years. Wheeler said he finds it easy to find 150 names and
would like to make it a little easier for the younger individuals because he thinks
that they have a lot to offer.
Wheeler responded to Gratwick and said that he is asking that the number of
required City Council signatures be reduced from 150 to 100. He feels it is the
fairest way and the most interesting way is for candidates who have submitted
the required number of signatures be allowed to pick the names out of a hat in
the City Clerk’s office with the City Clerk present to determine the ballot order.
Blanchette asked Dubois if the Committee votes to have this brought to the
Council would it be possible to look at the last 4 elections to determine who took
office and where their names were on the ballot. Dubois responded to
Blanchette saying that she felt that it would be favorable if this process was done
in public as opposed to in the City Clerk’s office. It could put the City in a difficult
position if someone challenges the process. It could be done during a Council
Meeting after the petition deadline has gone by. This would allow for the
process to be public. She pointed out that the town of Sanford has 100 numbers
in a basket and when a person turns in their petitions they pull out a number
which is attached to their petition. Barrett responded to Gratwick saying that
after looking at other cities, their methods are all over the place. The purpose of
looking at the numbers is to make sure that enough of an effort is put forth so
that serious people are running but no so high that it becomes a barrier for
people getting on the ballot. Barrett feels that the number does not seem to be
too high but he understands Wheeler’s concern and the fact that they should be
the same number between the City Councilors and School Board Members.
Responding to Gratwick, Barrett said that Alpha is the predominate method used
in the order of placement on the ballot, from what he has seen especially in
Maine. In other places in the country the placement by lot is at least as popular
because he thinks that people do realize that there is an advantage to being first
on the ballot (or higher on the ballot). Palmer feels that the placement of the
names on the ballot is very important. He does not feel like having the drawing
publicized at a Council Meeting and thinks that having a press conference would
work.
Heitmann suggested that this should be discussed at the next Council Meeting.
He agrees that it would be beneficial to have the Clerk’s office do some research
on the number of names on the ballots and how many Council Candidates per
elections. He wonders how many petitions are turned in and then the individual
disappears possibly due to not having enough names on the petition. Blanchette
stated that she would like to have a questionnaire go out to the Councilors
asking them how they feel about the number of required signatures and
changing the method of the placement on the ballots. This would give the City a
sense of how they feel and not waste time by staff and Council if it turns out that
the majority is not in favor of a change.
Heitmann stated that the Charter is not worded in a way that says that the
“Council and the School Committee shall be” on the ballot in a specific way. It
just says that the ballot “shall be”; so the City can simply change the language to
impact the School Board as well. He suggested checking with the School Board
to see if they have an opinion.
Wheeler commented on Blanchette’s request for a questionnaire and feels it is
not needed and not helpful to the process. Since charter amendments require a
public hearing anyway, the people that really need to be heard from are
members of the public as well as members of the Council.
The staff will gather the information needed and share that information with the
Council prior to the next Government Operations Committee meeting and have it
on the agenda in two weeks. Heitmann will put together a memo to all the
Councilors with that information and a request that all Councilors attend the next
meeting. If there are any Councilors that are unable to attend he would request
that they provide any comments they would like him to pass on to other
Councilors at that meeting. No formal action was required.
3. Proposal to Increase Certain City Clerk Fees
Dubois referred to the memo that was provided and stated a fee increase is
being proposed on certain services that the City offers to the citizens as a
convenience and are not required by the City Charter or State law. Due to the
changes in the laws regarding the Drivers License renewals, people now have to
provide a certified copy of their birth certificate. The City Clerk’s office has seen
a dramatic increase in the vital records requests in the office. A new service that
has been offered by this office is the ability to request a copy by phone and with
a credit card. This increases the calls that come into the City Clerk’s office and
to the front counter clerks. The Clerk’s office has 2 or 3 clerks working at a time,
and at times is unable to answer a high volume of calls due to people at the
counter needing assistance. These transactions over the phone sometimes take
7 - 9 minutes each. This concerns Dubois as the popularity increases and people
decide to call in for this service and are willing to pay the additional $2 fee for
the expedited service which puts them in the front of the line. The attempt is to
offset the cost of this additional service that people are choosing to use and
hope that only the people that really need this service will use it. The City
Clerk’s office offers the walk in service or the method of sending in checks via
mail for those local individuals and the birth certificate is mailed out the same
day. There is no additional fee for these methods.
Dubois responded to Blanchette by saying that the City Clerk’s office gets around
10 or so calls a day, which averages about 50 a week. Many of the calls that are
received are local people and she does not feel that the calls from out of state
would mind paying the additional for the convenience. If the increase was to
$10 she feels that the calls will diminish somewhat but not stop the calls
completely. Palmer agreed that there should be a fee for the expedition and
with technology the City will need to meet the needs of the people and recognize
the limitations of the staff and what they are able to do. Dubois responded to
Wheeler stating that she likes that fact that these services are offered to those
that really need it. She does not want the service to be abused which is the
reason for the increase. She pointed out that the City is not required to offer
this service. The fact that the City can now take credit cards is a luxury and if
used properly can be a benefit for the customer.
The notary service is a more generalized service that is offered. She polled some
banks, Credit Unions, and attorney’s offices in the area to see what, if anything,
they charge and found for the most part the service is free. It is not that the
City is an exclusive provider of notary services, but most individuals logically go
to City Hall. When staff receives calls, they try to direct them to these other
companies because the service would be free for them. This service could be
discontinued once we got the word out to people and can redirect them
appropriately. The Dedimus Justice service is a little more specialized. Dubois
thinks that people come to City Hall for the convenience of her being a public
person and that that they know where she is so that they can find her. It is
difficult to find a Dedimus Justice that is retired and she believes this service
should remain available. Responding to Wheeler, Dubois said she would prefer
to continue offering these services and simply urge people to go elsewhere.
Blanchette suggested that requesting callers to leave their name and number in
order to return the calls when time allows. Dubois responded by saying that
when the clerks are dealing with someone at the counter and a call is coming in,
she has instructed the clerks to not interrupt the transaction and let the phone
call go to voice mail. Once the call is answered the clerk is starting another
transaction. The Clerk’s office ends up with a bank of messages throughout the
day. Responding to Palmer, Dubois said that there are a few weddings done
every year. The City charges $200 for that service. The money goes directly
into the general fund and is done in the Council Chambers. She feels this is
worth the effort.
Dubois requested an increase is genealogy research. Dubois stated that the City
is not required to offer this service, but the records are public. Staff can steer
people to other agencies to receive the records such as the State Archives, or the
Department of Vital Records, etc. But, if an individual would like to look at the
records, the Clerk’s office provides that service. This service requires personnel
time and often the person requesting the information is calling from out of town
and not able to do research on their own. Often times little information is given
and requires a substantial amount of research. This fees forces people to narrow
the search. For example, the Clerk’s office will look through 10 years of records
for one fee and will save someone money if they can narrow it down to only one
or two different searches. The increase is $5 per search if they have the exact
date and $10 per search without the exact date and includes a copy of the
record. Gratwick does not feel that $5 or $10 would be enough for a day’s worth
of searching and asked if it were appropriate to charge per hour or minute?
Responding to Gratwick, Dubois said that the fee is collected prior to the search.
If they do not find the information, it is very difficult to collect the fee. It would
be difficult to collect credit card information for an hourly basis when the length
of time for research needed is unknown. Gratwick stated that he did not feel that
taxpayers should be paying for the amount of time it requires to research other
people’s genealogy reports. Barrett pointed out that the City Clerk’s office
charges a $10 fee for each 10 year increment; therefore, if the search requires a
time frame for 30 years then the individual will be charged for 3 different fees of
$10.
A motion was made and seconded to increase the fees as recommended by the
City Clerk.
4. Transportation Consideration for Voters on Election Day
Dubois started by discussing the consolidating of polling places to one polling
place. There was a lot of discussion with voters and the transportation issues
regarding difficulties getting to the polling places. This is a result of the voting
being taken out of the neighborhoods and moving it to a different location. The
City has offered a free ride on the BAT during the past several elections. The
participation has been extremely insignificant to the point that the BAT has not
billed the Clerk for those services until this past Presidential Election year. The
City had usage that equaled about $175 dollars for this past election. She did
not anticipate in future elections that it would be more than that. One of the
concerns is that if people have difficulties getting to the route that the BAT
follows, those people would not be able to take advantage of that. She feels
there might be a small percentage of the population that might still find
themselves with some transportation issues. She thought about having City staff
use fleet vehicles and pick people up but looked into insurance and liability, and
found that it becomes an issue. She feels that perhaps the City could offer taxi
rides. These taxi cabs are in the business of transporting the general public, and
are use to getting people into and out of their homes. They can go to those
interior locations where the bus does not necessarily go by. She wanted to get a
sense from the Council whether or not this was a viable solution before she
looked into it more. Gratwick asked how one would determine who was “unable
to utilize” public transportation. Dubois responded by saying that she would work
closely with Joe McNeil. If someone is truly handicapped and unable to use
public transportation, they use the LYNX to pick them up. Using the LYNX can
be an expensive option for one or two voters; however, it is not so expensive
that the City would be looking at thousands of dollars. Responding to Gratwick,
Dubois feels that although there might be some abuse, for the most part people
are not going to call for a free ride to the Civic Center and back home. Gratwick
is concerned with the Taxi and potential abuse. Dubois stated that if people
contact the City with a transportation issue, the City would offer the services in
the order of necessity; for example if the Clerk’s office received a call for a free
ride, staff would encourage the BAT first and then look at the other options if
necessary.
Palmer reminded the committee that it is important to remember that early
voting is an option. He is not in favor of using the taxi service because he feels
that there would be an issue with the various companies no matter how fair the
City tries to make it. He believes that the BAT is an excellent option and would
encourage having a shuttle service from the parking garage to the Civic Center
and back again. Barrett suggested having conversations with the LYNX service
and stated he has some reservations regarding the use of taxi cabs. He thought
that it might cost $20 to $30 per ride on average making it difficult to justify and
control. Responding to Blanchette, Dubois said she did not think Brewer offered
this service on Election Day. Blanchette feels that Bangor goes out of their way
to help voters. With early voting, prepaid postage, the BAT service and
handicap accessibility, Blanchette said that the City of Bangor does enough and
she feels that the taxi cab service would be abused.
Wheeler thanked Dubois for her compassion but brought up other issue’s on taxi
cabs, such as: the wait time while the passenger is voting, where the taxi will
park, will the City be responsible for the waiting, will the passenger be able to
find the taxi when they return and finally, can the City ensure that they do not
make any other stops before they return home.
A motion was made to continue to work with McNeil regarding the BAT service
for voters; it was seconded and passed without objection. The committee
tanked Dubois for her effort.
Meeting adjourned at 6:25 p.m.